8/23/2013

Overloading is dangerous and illegal

Our private cars have a legal limit on the number of passengers it can seat. Going above the approved number is illegal. The school buses or private buses, tour coaches, pickups and commercial vehicles too have a legal limit as well. And there is a very good reason for it other than graciousness. It is safety.
 

Often there were reports of ferries or boats sinking because of overloading. Our lorries and trucks also have loading limits and speed limits for safety reasons as well. Funny thing, why are public transport buses and MRT trains not having limits on the number of people they can carry on each bus or train carriage? Why are they allowed to squeeze as many passengers as they like into the cabins? And they have been suggestions to hire pushers to push more people into trains like it is the right thing to do.
 

Would overloading of public buses and trains affect the safety of the passengers? No? Not sure? What do you think?

32 comments:

Anonymous said...

It is very very simple : NO ACCIDENT YET!

Anonymous said...

On a macro economic basis, a lost of few lives compared with the profit is acceptable lar though not acceptable to the affected families. This is the way profit orientated country works mah

Anonymous said...

Because they are public buses and trains mah.

Just like legal casinos are OK mah, tio bo?

It is not the matter, but the context of the matter, that matters.

Understand?

Anonymous said...

Follow what I say, not what I do.

Hahahahaha.

Anonymous said...

Our buses are overloaded. Look at the official capacity of a bus. It's calculated based on thin people with no bags or backpacks.

That is why the bus companies can claim that the buses never reach full capacity. There is always "space" to push more passengers in.

Anonymous said...

I got a very strong feeling that our trains and buses are very very overloaded during peak periods........accidents are waiting to happen .......look into it now!

Anonymous said...

The objective is to maximize profit. Yes, the only country that uses Public Transport to milk its citizens.

Anonymous said...

Does the island of Singapore also have a legal limit for the number of population the island can carry?

Is it 6.9 million?
10 million?
100 million?
Or has the legal limit been exceeded already?

GE 2016.
Tell us what you think.

Anonymous said...

The limit is 100m definitely. We are building towards the sky.

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

Echoing 937: As long as there is no accident, then there is no problem.

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In many cuntrees, people exceed the legal and manufacturers' recommended limits all the time. Sometimes there are accidents, as you can imagine, pretty horrific ones. But life goes on, no worries.

Since there is "no free lunch", every choice is a trade-off of costs vs benefits. Every decision also comes with margins for error, and the risk of uncertainty.

You cannot have a rocking city of multiple millions and not expect crowding on things like public transport or roads.

Instead of complaining everytime, just pause and realise that the bus or train journey is not FOREVER. In Japan, people are crammed into trains everyday -- and life goes on. It is now accepted. People get to their destinations, no problem.

Singapore public transport runs efficiently and is priced reasonably. So what if you occasionally have to put up with crowds? Get real lah. You're not the only person in the world or entitled to "stretch out" on a bus or train. Other people have shit to do and places to go too!

So relac lah brudder. Not so bad lah.

Anonymous said...

Agree, wait till 6.9m is here. Life will be real great fun. Travelling on buses and trains would be great daily adventures.

oldhorse42 said...

Our buses and trains are definetly overloaded. Our little island is also overcrowded. HDB flats are overcrowded. They are designed for not more than 4 adults per room. Yet often there are more then double the PRC there.Our parliament is also overcrowded. Why do we need so many MPs, Minister, Parl Sec, Minister of State and DPM in this 700 sm island?So how, how?

Anonymous said...

Not only so many but also so well paid.

So how?

Because they have the 60% mandate. That's how.

Anonymous said...

It's much easier to get well paid and make lots of money than to fight and replace the PAP and do a better job than PAP.

So for smart Sinkies, the choice is obvious.

No wonder WP is not ready to be Govt.

Because smart Sinkies will either make lots of money or join PAP.

b said...

Because the ruling party is running the state like a company who only cares about maximizing profit and the ministers are dogs who are blindly loyal to their master whether their master is good or evil.

Anonymous said...

People should stop using the public transport system. Try using a bike, space scooter or electronic steps.

Anonymous said...

>>201pm

Yes, you are right. It is easier to just sit around, enjoying the sunshine, smell the roses rather than blog about the ruling party competency level.

Anonymous said...

just for you ........

a big boss asked his junior clerk how she came to work......

she told her big boss by B M W ......

the junior clerk then quickly explained:

B = by BUS
M = by MRT
W = by WALK

The said...

You forgot about the most important over-loading - squeezing 6.9 to 10 million people onto the little red dot.

Anonymous said...

We are practising with the trains and would get better by the time 6.9m are here.

Kaki said...

In Japan this happen a lot, if all gotta get to work in time, dun think it will affect much, there's is only so much time for you to get there and no one wants to be late. You do get a occasional blue black now and then but then you get to get crush with pretty ladies as well, so........

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Hi Kaki, welcome to the blog. We should not aspire to squeeze like the Japanese. It is not quality and graceful living.

And no one would want to squeeze with smelly and unwashed commuters.

Anonymous said...

That's why when parts break down, when the track cracks, when bolts get dislodged etc. we have to pay through our noses to fix the damage. When you overload the trains to such an extent you exceed the specifications, the warranty becomes invalid. Same as car insurance - if you don't maintain the car well and the car skids in an accident because the tyres are flat, you don't expect the insurer to pay compensation. Wait till the overloaded trains flip and fall over the tracks !

Anonymous said...

Wait till the overloaded trains flip and fall over the tracks !
Anon August 24, 2013 11:10 am

Wait long long lah.

How long?

As long as WP takes to be ready to be Govt.

Anonymous said...

Hello Anon at 24 Aug 11.34am. You anyhow use WP name sekali WP shaft their hammer up your arse then you know ah !

Anonymous said...

Overloading is not dangerous when no accident happens. And it is not illegal when it is deemed not dangerous by the Authority.

Anonymous said...

Do you know that the latest generation of new trains ordered from China are 5 tons heavier than those earlier ones? Its almost the weight of army trucks 3 tonner. With the removing away of seats leading to more passenger load and the extra 5 tons can the tracks take the weight? Day in and day out 365 days a year can it not break down? Isn't it abusing the system which was meant for an optimum load of passenger number? What do you think? The answer is quite obvious isn't?

Anonymous said...

"Do you know that the latest generation of new trains ordered from China are 5 tons heavier than those earlier ones?"
Anon August 24, 2013 9:12 pm

Even if it is true, why you need to worry?

Are you a safety expert on MRT trains?

Anonymous said...

"Are you a safety expert on MRT trains?"

No he's not an expert.
Just asking a simple question which is his right as a citizen.

Are you an arse hole licking PAPig voter?

Anonymous said...

All commuters are concerned if the weight leads to frequent breakdowns of the Rail System.

Anonymous said...

All commuters are concerned if the weight leads to frequent breakdowns of the Rail System.
Anon August 25, 2013 12:15 pm

Why you so sure it is the weight and not other factors?

Are you an expert to make such comments?

Anonymous said...

It needs some commonsense to ask questions too.