6/17/2014

Singapore 20 or 30 years forward



What would Singapore be like in 20 or 30 years’ time? At the top, would govt leaders like ministers be new citizens? Would the top civil servants also be new citizens? Would the top management in IT, banking and finance be filled by new citizens and foreigners? Would the medical, legal and teaching professions in the universities be dominated by foreigners?

What about the properties? Would the top end and good quality properties be owned by foreigners with a sprinkle of local elite sharing a small portion of them? Would the HDB flats be occupied by new citizens and PRs? Would they still be as clean as before, like how we maintained them in the last 40 years? Or would the HDB estates be turned in modern slums, dirty, filthy and smelly befitting a 3rd World city filled with 3rd World people? Our trains smelling like filth, with people clinging on the windows outside?

Would there still be a Singaporean middle class left? Or would the society be so extremely stratified that you only have a small obscenely rich upper class and the rest consisting of poor lower middle class and the new poor, all eking a living in this grossly expensive city?

Would Singaporeans become an absolute minority in this city state and actually ended up working as maids and manual labourers, taxi drivers and security guards and all the good jobs taken over by foreigners who are hiring Singaporeans as housekeepers and drivers?

What would become of our lovely city state that we called home? Would all the daft Sinkies realise that things have gone too far and there is no return and regretted their foolishness yesterday for wearing a blinker and congratulating themselves that everything was fine and there was nothing to worry about when they should be worrying about?

I really hope that we are really on the right path and not rotting into oblivion. I hope we are not so short sighted that we cannot see further than the tip of our nose. Where are we heading as a people, as a nation, as a country? Are we being robbed as a people, as a nation, as a country right under our nose? Can we see the changing patterns of things that are detrimental to us as a people, a nation and a country?

No, everything is fine, everything is going as planned? I am just looking at 20 and 30 years forward. What about further down the road?


Kopi Level - Green

27 comments:

Anonymous said...

I am pessimistic. She will be crowded to the brink, no good jobs for the population, everyone fighting for survival. Those who can will emigrate. This batch of ministers are very irresponsible when they planned 6.9 million population in this little red dot when she is just a little red dot with no resources and hitherland and the weather hot and humid with fog floating in from neigbouring countries. Sigh.....

Anonymous said...

The only middle class Singaporean will be an exhibit in the natural history museum (yet to be set up). He or she will be a stuffed figure standing next to the Dodo bird.

Darkness 2014

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

The future is impossible to predict, but one can attempt guessing. If you are lucky, some of your guesses will actually be right.

I'll pick a yer: 2040. By that time the population will be 7-9 million. The level of wealth will probably double, confirming Singapore and Hong Kong SAR as the 2 most open, wealthiest and sort after places on the planet.

All of the complainers who litter the online landscape with their incessant yammerings will be gone; either changed their minds, or left or simply died off and forgotten.

Robots will be doing most of the work, and healthcare and education will be cheap and available to all.

Property in the city will be expensive, less so in the suburbs. However many more people will live in Johor, and commute to and from Singapore by high speed rail.

Singapore's economy will be dominated by biotech, precision engineering and smart manufacturing. Almost no one will work in "cubicle city" anymore. All of what we know as "office" today will be replaced by machines and software. Even public and private transport will be roboticised. Very few people will actually drive -- driverless cars will dominate making traffic jams, driver-error accidents and road rage a thing of the past.

So yeah, Singapore will still be rocking. Only more "cosmopolitan", more "international" and definitely RICHER.

Anonymous said...

Dear Mr Chua.
Please consider helping me complete the list below if you think it has some merits.

Thank you.
Tired of PAP Bullshit
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Do Singaporeans Give These Subsidies To The PAP Government

1)CPF money
2)National service
3)Private tuition to subsidize sub-standard teaching and large class size in PAP schools

4)Paying rent 99 years in advance for PAP’s HDB flats that we do not own.

5) Is it a subsidy to pay PAP Ministers high salaries in order for them to be 100% honest?
Are we subsidizing PAP's declining ability to recruit honest people?

6) Is it a subsidy to the lone MP in Parliament who does not need to attend MPS ?

7) looking after our elderly parents because PAP government say it is not their job.

8)Paying the Filial Piety tax (maid’s levy) when we hire a maid to assist in looking after our parents

9) Did Singaporean taxpayers pay for the capital expenses of publicly listed SMRT to buy buses?
If yes, does this action help SMRT continue to pay dividends to its largest shareholder, Temasek?

10) Did we just sell Changi Airport to Temasek?
Was a global tender done to ensure Singaporeans obtained a fair & competitive price for the sale of a Singaporean asset?
Is Temasek allowed to re-sell Changi Airport in a few years time when it can get a better price?
If yes, where does the profits go?
What about SingTel & POSB?

Is the above true?
Can others please verify and help me add to the list.
Thank you.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Let me add a couple. Money locked in Medisave are advancement payment for medical bills that the people may not used.

Producing and paying for the cost of babies to workers and to grease the economy.

Contrbuting to minimum sums in the CPF and the money becomes the nation's reserve or for the use of the govt when needed.

Anonymous said...

"What would Singapore be like in 20 or 30 years’ time?"

Young local born Sinkies will definitely be a minority. Because most of the baby boomers (those born in 50s, 60s or even 70s) would have mati liao, if not, will be very old and useless.

And Sinkieland may not be a nation anymore if those foreign talents who will be majority don't want it to be and don't want to do NS. And so all the PM and minister posts all not necessary. Maybe become part of Matland state of Johore?

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Matilah forgot that with 7-9m people, there will be no suburbs in the island. And robots don't buy properties, so more people will be needed to buy properties.

And not only the complainers will not be around. He too will not be around. Or they may give him a jab of immortality to enjoy a robotic and super rich world of the future.

Anonymous said...

In 30 years time, RB will be about 94 years old.

And if there are too many Sinkies in their 60s, 80s or 90s, Sinkieland habis lah, tio bo?

The forces of nature can already make Sinkieland habis, no need any bad PAP policies to do that.

And even good policies by PAP or even opposition also cannot prevent Sinkieland from being habis, tio bo?

Anonymous said...

The EP and Punggol East BE, reveal many interesting facts.

Both EP and PE By Elect, have four candidates.

Main Stream Medias have less and less influence on the public as in the past, as mobile internet continue to gain grounds?

The electorate is getting younger and more educated, as news around the world is more accessible, due to the continue lowering cost of getting the mobile internet?

The recent old 76 year old ladies, asking for her coffin money CPF to be return, as she had struggle all her life to contribute to the economy, video viral around the world in days?

The EP is more like some advanced small nation, where four best parties putting their best candidates up for elect from different?

Change in support of new citizens show up in the 2011 from the ruling party to 2013 Punggol East BE, as most new citizens felt much different after 2011 many things the price kept rising?

The new citizen who vote the ruling party could had changed their mind vote the WP?

Surprising they leave 2 other opposition RP and SDA with only one percent each?

The surprise unexpected swinging in a staggering 10 percent to the WP, as many expected the ruling party to win by a slim margin? It could due to more and more people aware that their CPF was locked up for life?

The EP too saw the voters complete on four of the nation best, each had vast experiences heading various entities successfully?

Previously if without mobile internet Tony Tan with massive main stream medias support, associations support and ruling party endorsement should have way ahead of the other 3 opposing voices of TCB, TJS & TKL?

It is too surprise this is the ruling party best candidate got to be recall to do national service? The sentiment had turned with mobile internet?

These 2 results show the electorate signal they want a multi party system like some of the highly successful small advanced countries which each party to their research on each issue and present their best candidates to solve their problems, not some par-timer who got full time pay and too tired to attend parliamentary proceedings?

The result of EP of the voting patterns consistence to the maturing of electorate?

Tony are the ruling party best candidate can only through with one one percent ahead of Tan CHeng Bock, through luck which the opposing voices divided by TJS and TKL?

With the votes of 34, 33, 25 and 5 percent means what level the person achievement and experiences came into key consideration of the electorate?

The impact of the problem of overcrowding due to the planning of increase new immigrant of $30K each year will be more acute as it show in the shortage of beds in a hospitals patients got to sleep in the tent?

Can Singapore cope with any crisis with the every increasing crowds?

Singapore shift it emphasis from a cheap manufacturing base to a service industries base economy, could cause the more acute overcrowding situations?

With the average of 8 millions tourists to 15 millions people?

Anonymous said...

The massive competition in the Elected President saw the EP pay from 4 millions reduced to 1 million plus?

Virgo 49 said...

When HK become part of PRC in 1997 and Macau in 1999, the residents thought that they will have a bleak future in 50 years from then under direct PRC rule.

Many Hong Kongers came here under the PAP flexible welcome policy that they do not need to be sinkie citizens immediate. MANY RETURN AFTER STAYING HERE JUST FOR A FEW YEARS

Now Singaporeans have a bleaker future than the Hong Kongers in another thirty three years time when HK flyed the red four stars flag.

in fact Hong Kongers would be more secure with the PRC ruling them without much democracy than the sinkies as ruled by democrazy.

Anonymous said...



The massive competition in the Elected President saw the EP pay from $4 millions reduced to $1 million plus?

Which could signal if in the future opposition party member elected as ruling party, their pay is likely competitive to the Danish, Swiss and New Zealand ministers salaries?

As the cost of running the govt is reduce, the indirect taxes likely to reduce and reduction in the cost of living, as Singapore is one of the most expensive cities in the world?

Anonymous said...

You think PAP scholar-generals better than PRC Generals?

Anonymous said...

20 years dowm the road there cud be no Singapore, just Sincity. A city run by a city mayor. There will be no Singaporean, they will be known by other names.

Anonymous said...

Since Sinkie money are going to be stuck in the CPF for life, Sinkies should be called CPF Life members or Patrons of the CPF.

Anonymous said...

The continue strengthen of opposition candidates could signal the end of one party rule to the multi party rules?

As with the EP, the returns is around 34, 33, 25 & 5 percent, according to various factors and abilities of the highly capable contestants?

They were ask numerous tough questions by Professor Tommy Koh, each person presentation will be judge by the public how the answer the questions?

It is the keenest competition so far with widespread publicity?

After the PE Tony Tan his pay was drop from $4millions to around $1 million? As he can't make much headway again the opposing voices of 64 percents even with massive support?

The next general election will saw the keenest competition ever as different ideas of how to reduce the cost of living, increase birthrate, reduce the income gap & work life balance?

The ruling party votes had dropped to 57 consider the walkover of Tanjong Pagar GRC 30 second late disqualifications of Opp?

All parties likely concentrate their best candidate to get into the parliament as competition heated up?

The ruling parties support continue to decline?

They new citizens support continue to swing to oppositions party from the ruling party, as they worry of $30K of new immigrant each year would take away their jobs and their children jobs and depress their pay?

With the 2016 like the support level of the PE, swing of 10 percent in all the cont could see the support of all the parliamentary seats drop to less then 50 percent of the seat, with presently 92 percent of the seat?

With heavy competition like the EP, in new 2016 GE with more better candidates will the ruling party pay as competition to the Danish Swiss and Ministers, to reduce cost? Improve the wage gap, increase the birthrate, the standard of living and work life balance?

With heavy competition, better ideas likely to produce now to solve Singapore some of the worst wage gap, some of the lowest standard of living, the new citizens votes swing from the ruling party to the WP, signal that their worry of job lost and their children job lost to the 30K of new citizens every year could take away their jobs and depress their pay, drive up the cost of living?

Could likely saw the ruling party pay drop to $200K of the Danish, NZ , swiss with around the same population?

The CPF locked up scheme could cause the ruling parties huge amount of protest votes?

With the ruling party support lesser, there is less need to all these much indirect taxes to support their pay as the cost of running the govt and expenditure is lower?

The opposition parties likely to return the CPF at 55 as promised for the workers to enjoy their old age and work partime and take care of their grand children?

oldhorse42 said...

20 or 30 years down the road the new citizen would become old citizen. They even called themselves sinkie and bemoan the incessant arrival of new citizen. There may even be another RB who would call himself tausar, sharing his unhappiness in the internet daily. He would not ask for coffee though. Probably will ask for pu er tea, instead.

Anonymous said...

In 20 years time, WP would have been running the country for 10 years.

When opposition took over the country, they allowed everyone to take out their CPF money as they wish, or to keep it in CPF. It is free for all. Of course, those who need the money will take out and spend. When they fall sick and enter hospital, of course no money so the govt funded them for free. Ditto for they visit polyclinics - Free, if they say they got no money.

Singles or not, everyone born in this country is entitled to one heavily subsidised HDB, around only $200,000 for 5 room, and bigger area than now with nice finishing. Gay or married, never mind, as long as red I/C can liao. This is the privilege for being Singaporean and to compensate them for losing 1 year of their best youth to NS. (NS was shortened to 1 year)

All major jobs held by Singaporeans, foreigners were not welcomed. Major jobs I mean those salary worth $6000 and above a month. To sack one Singaporean would require the company to sack 3 foreign workers as punishment. WP will increase salary of cleaners, bus drivers, cooks etc by average 30% to attract locals to join. As a result, we have very low unemployment and citizens were happy.

Ministers and civil servants salaries were further cut to approx. equal to our neighbouring country ministers pay. Many people applied to be ministers, requirement criteria was relaxed to allow more common people (as that they understand poor people situation better) to apply.

Because of the higher govt expenditure and lower govt income, the govt has been running deficits for the last 5 years and increasing. More money was allowed to be drawn down from reserves to meet this pressing need. Law was passed to allow this, as when compared with deficits with advanced countries, our country deficit is still very much in its infancy.

Anonymous said...

Because salary to the top 20 to 30govt people were reduced, the govt saved a lot of money, and as a result, can reduced GST from 7% back to 5% initially, and eventually to 3%. Personal income tax can be reduced too.

The govt also took control of ALL transport providers, and provided all brand new trains and buses, and fares reduced to one of the cheapest in the world.

Property was one big problem last time. Now with cheap HDB, people rush to buy HDB and sell their private condos, realising that there are good money to be flipped in HDBs. Sell private, buy HDB. As a result condos and private properties nosedived by average 40-50%, much to the average citizens' happiness. People don't feel so stressed anymore, and protests at Hong Lim are no longer existent, just a grim reminder of all that bad policies in the past.

People are happy, and finally, they think their children will have a better future in Singapore.

Anonymous said...

Wah, this IB thinking so hard to write this comment to tell people WP were made up of idiots that would simply run down the country as if this country is not being run down.

Tiok, IB must think like that and talk like that, or been programmed to think and talk like that.

The said...

Que sera sera.

b said...

I guess/predict that this island will be owned by foreigners and mainly thrive on vices - drugs, gambling and prostitution. Thats what singapore was long ago.

Anonymous said...

simi IB?

Bo tio !

Anonymous said...

if I IB, you also IB.

b said...

I also predict that an outbreak of a pandemic disease will hit singapore and wipe off a lot of people and cause many to flee. The result is the population will be back to where singapore was long ago.

b said...

I also predict that after lee old man departure, matland will want to consolidate this part of the region again using water as a ransom.

Anonymous said...

I say 2:18 IB lah. Not 2:56 lah. don't tell me both the same one.