6/06/2014

Tiananmen Square ‘massacre’ was a myth


By Deirdre Griswold
WikiLeaks confirms it
Published Jun 29, 2011 2:53 PM
How many times have we been told that the U.S. is an “open” society and the media are “free”?
 

Usually such claims are made when criticizing other countries for not being “open,” especially countries that don’t follow Washington’s agenda.
 

If you live in the United States and depend on the supposedly “free” and “open” commercial media for information, you would without a doubt believe that the Chinese government massacred “hundreds, perhaps thousands” of students in Tiananmen Square on June 4, 1989. That phrase has been repeated tens of thousands of times by the media of this country.
 

But it’s a myth. Furthermore, the U.S. government knows it’s a myth. And all the major media know it too. But they refuse to correct the record because of the basic hostility of the U.S. imperialist ruling class to China.
 

On what do we base this assertion? Several sources.
 

The most recent is a WikiLeaks release of cables sent from the U.S. Embassy in Beijing to the State Department in June 1989, a few days after the events in China.
 

Second is an assertion in November 1989 by the Beijing bureau chief of the New York Times, an assertion that has never again been referred to by that newspaper.
 

And third is the account of what happened by the Chinese government itself, which is corroborated by the first two.
 

Only one major Western newspaper has published the WikiLeaks cables. That was the Telegraph of London on June 4 of this year, exactly 22 years after the Chinese government called out the troops in Beijing….
 

They knew the truth in 1989
 

The New York Times knows it’s credible. Their own Beijing bureau chief at the time, Nicholas Kristof, confirmed it in an extensive article entitled “China Update: How the Hardliners Won,” published in the Sunday Times magazine on Nov. 12, 1989, five months after the supposed massacre in the square.
 

At the very end of this long article, which purported to give an inside view of a debate within the Chinese Communist Party leadership, Kristof stated categorically: “Based on my observations in the streets, neither the official account nor many of the foreign versions are quite correct. There is no massacre in Tiananmen Square, for example, although there is plenty of killing elsewhere.”…
 

The full article can be found at : http://www.workers.org/2011/world/tiananmen_0707/

Kopi Level - Green

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

As much as I like all your posts regarding the local politics, you seem to be living in a delusional state when it comes to China. I don't know whether you have ever lived in China. I did, for 13 years and believe me, it is not what you think.
I am surprised you are so anti-PAP (so am I) but that you swallow China propaganda like it is ice-cream

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

I don't swallow everything that came out of China. And I don't buy everything the western media said about China.

There are too many slanted news about China coming from the West. And many are accepted as truth and good from the western perspective and western interests.

It is not how many years you lived in China to know the truth. 13 years is nothing in China's history.

I have been following events in China for more than 50 years.

Is this article by Deirdre Griswold propaganda from China?

I am not anti PAP per se. I am against policies that I don't agree with. I am pro Singaporeans.


Anonymous said...


TUCK WAN:
June 6, 2014 at 1:31 pm (Quote)

HOW MANY SINGAPOREANS GET TO ENJOY THEIR CPF AT AGE 65 YEARS OLD.
MY BROTHER AGE OF DEATH 62 YEARS OLD (2014 FEB)
MY TWO BEST FRIENDS (WE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR 30 YEARS +)
GILL- AGE OF DEATH 65 YEARS OLD (2011 AUG)
LIM C.S.- AGE OF DEATH 64 YEARS OLD (2011 JUNE)
ASK YOURSELF CAN YOU LIVE PASSED 65 YEARS OLD ? EVEN THEN HOW MANY MORE YEARS AFTER THAT.
Rating: +2 (from 2 votes)

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Hi Tuck Wan,

Thanks for that post. Is it asking too much for people who slogged a life time to have their money back to splurge and be happy for a while? No one can guarantee how long one lives.

And this ruling is affecting millions of CPF members with money that many would not live to enjoy and be happy even for a moment.

Anonymous said...

If you don't take back or can't take back or at least partial CPF you can said bye bye to your CPF, not alot can live past 65 or more to enjoy your savings? And the rules will change again?

Anonymous said...

Hi Mr Chua. I am a reader of your articles and I enjoy you humour and personal take on many issues. I too feel when it comes to China, you seems to be pro China. On Tiananmen event, I have read books and article on it and if you believe it is a myth, then the Nanking killing and Nazi gas chamber are also myths. I am sure you do not think so. Personally, I think China is going overboard with its neighbours and behaving like a big bully, just like PAP

Anonymous said...

Hi Redbean

I thought I share this with you & your readers. http://nsnbc.me/2013/04/29/lets-talk-about-tiananmen-square-1989-my-hearsay-is-better-than-your-hearsay/

Cheers!

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

I heard Elvis is still alive. Apparently so is Michael Jackson. The bloody western press again! Full of liars!

NASA hoaxed the moon landing. It must have. I mean the moon itself is an illusion, because why would our flat earth have a satellite which is spherical in appearance? It must a western media conspiracy again to mess with our heads so the government can keep us under control by doping the water and zapping our brains with invisible rays!

Got fourth estate?

Anonymous said...

"I am not anti PAP per se. I am against policies that I don't agree with."
RB 3:11 pm

Tiok. Sinkies are also not anti PAP per se. Only 40% are against PAP policies to the extent that they will not vote PAP during GE.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Hi guys, if you read the articles carefully, you will find that the author agreed that there were many deads during that student protest. The author was saying that in Tiananmen, there was no massacre of students as exaggerated by the media.

Come to think of it, if the Chinese authorities were out to kill the students, the top students leaders were also have been killed and not alive today.

It was a student uprising, but it was not a case of the soldiers moving into Tiananmen Square to mow down the students in cold blood. There were thousands of students and the casualties would be in the thousands.

This was never in the scale of the massacre of Red Indians by the cavalries. Those massacres were horrendous, more than 70 millions were terminated.

The author did not say Tiananmen Incident did not happen. And many western journalists covering the incident were also of this view.

Anonymous said...

Why the huge swing in Punggol East By Election?

2011 general election, when get nearer need to reduce the price lots of things and various incentives and profit sharing schemes to induces the voters, as usual?

After the elections, they got to take back double, it is not free, the the cost of living keep going up couple with every year need to bring in $30K of immigrants?

After 2 years the cost kept increasing, which inflation come lead to the standard of living dropping so lead to the Punggol East unexpected huge swing of votes of 10 percent?

Anonymous said...

If the CPF was to return to you as promised at 55, you could have semi-retired or retired plus some of your savings?

Right now the rules had changed, it was locked up, only can give you a few hundred per month at 65 or 70, you can't take out the total sum, so now instead of semi or retired, you got to work until in your seventies, maybe until you died?